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卫报:阿什利科尔的最新专访! [复制链接]

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在西班牙和其他地方遭遇的种族歧视辱骂激怒了阿森纳和英格兰左后卫-阿什利.科尔,但是并没有摧垮他的精神!

by Michael Walker

翻译:echo(未经本人和www.arsenalcn.com  同意请勿转载)


能够在阿森纳训练基地的采访室里和阿什利-科尔面对面的讨论足球那该有多好啊。能够写下这篇文章而不提及科尔的妈妈是个白人那该有多好啊。如果西班牙主帅阿拉贡内斯不是一个种族主义者那又该有多好啊。但令人遗憾的是阿拉贡内斯曾对阿什利-科尔的阿森纳队友亨利有过宗族歧视的辱骂,而在10天前的伯纳乌的友谊赛上,他的行为愈演愈烈。

因此科尔的肤色和文化习惯就成了事件的焦点。从小科尔就对种族歧视的反映很冷静、也很宽容!因为莱德利-金和萨穆埃尔都是他的好朋友,他喜欢麦克-杰克逊和亚历山大-奥尼尔。而且在小的时候,每次在同叔叔去看比赛的路上,叔叔都坚持要听猫王的歌曲。所有的这些-不止猫王和麦克尔杰克逊-都不存在白人或者黑人的问题。

科尔说:“在上小学的时候,那些孩子不知道you black bastard', 'nigger'是什么意思。尽管我也很生气,但是毕竟他们不知道那些词意味这什么。我父亲来自巴巴多斯岛,但是我同我母亲住在一起。她把我养大,我的叔叔使我接触到了足球,所以说我是在白人家庭长大的。我在伦敦东部长大,同莱德利和萨穆埃尔一起长大。”

科尔正在成长。种族问题并不是他喜欢的话题-阿森纳明天将同利物浦比赛,然后是同切尔的比赛,但是在切尔西没有种族歧视问题。阿拉贡内斯尤其指出了阿森纳的黑人球员。所以不愉快的话题还是被提出来了。

“那真是糟糕一天,我也是人,一个英国人,我生在这里。当然或许我的肤色和你们有些不同,但是我仍然是一个人,同其它的人一样。肤色不同并不代表有什么根本的不同。”

“在2004年人们就一直呼吁种族歧视问题。但是在伯纳乌,科尔和他的英国队的其他黑人队友们都被侮辱成动物王国的成员。”

西班牙令23岁的科尔感到恐惧,他非常庆幸没有让母亲来看这场比赛。在英格兰,母亲也非常厌恶的关掉电视机;回到英格兰科尔才感觉到回到了家里。在上周日,约克在爱德华公园球场(布莱克本的主场)受到的种族辱骂,这使人意识到在英格兰种族歧视还有很长的路要走,但是科尔对自己国家还是非常有信心的。”

“我认为英国人越来越有包容度了。黑人走在大街上不会听到任何的辱骂。在英超的比赛中,我也从来没有听到过任何的辱骂,在曼彻斯特、在利物浦,在任何地方都没有,感觉非常的好。我想来过英国的外国人可以证明这一点。我想运动起到了一定的作用。但是当随俱乐部和国家队出国比赛的时候,情况就非常糟糕了。情况毫无改变。亨利两年前同埃因霍温的比赛就遭到了很强烈的宗族侮辱。我同国家队参加斯洛伐克、马其顿和阿尔巴尼亚都遭遇过这种情况,现在又是西班牙。似乎除了英国,任何地方都有宗族歧视。”

现在科尔正为某一运动品牌做代言,这就是英国种族歧视状态改善的最好证明。科尔指出英国有两名球员在伯纳乌遭到了种族歧视,里奥菲迪南德和詹斯纳,而他们在英国也都为其它产品代言。“能够在出现在商店的橱窗里,让我感觉非常好。一个黑人出现在商店的橱窗里,这在20年前是无论无何无法想象的。就像我所说的,时代已经变了,在英国情况就会好很多。我非常高兴这样。当然白人球员也代言很多产品。在英国,黑人和白人是平等的。”

但是在西班牙就不同了。在马德里科尔无法在保持以往的冷静。在上周五西班牙的《El Mundo》报道了科尔在比赛的第44分钟同西班牙主帅阿拉贡内斯对峙的场面。科尔的气愤可以清楚的看得到。“当然,谁也不愿意听到种族侮辱的语言,但是有时候作为一名球员,你就必须承受这些。但是当我听到一名主教练也这样说的时候,我就无法控制自己了,我想这可以理解。”

“当我去拿球的时候,他推了我一把。确实是他先推我的!作为一个主教练他怎么可以那样做!我随后也推了他,这样做有些愚蠢。我不应该和他一样的。但是当他推我的时候,我很诧异,也很气愤。我无法理解他为什么要那样做。我没有对他做过甚么,我只是走到那里去拿球。我不应该推他,但是那样的情况下我有点失控。”

听了这些我想科尔的不冷静确实可以理解。然而对于阿森那队友雷耶斯的左右为难,阿拉贡内斯事件让科尔更难过了。雷耶斯是阿拉贡内斯的球员,曾经为了鼓励他阿拉贡内斯辱骂了亨利。科尔说在离开了伯纳乌后,雷耶斯也不明白自己的国家怎么会这样。“他感到非常失望。西班牙是他的祖国,对此他感到很难过。但是他不那样,他是个非常不错的小伙子。我们也一起谈论过这个问题,但是我们谁都无法一笑而过。”

很快我就发现,此时得微笑只是科尔的一个伪装。很多种族歧视问题都会激怒他,但是当一切结束时,他仍然非常开心。

在科尔为阿森纳效力了第五个年头后,马德里却给科尔扣上了‘多事’的帽子。去年10月的‘老特拉福德事件’,科尔成为了范尼暴力事件的受害者。而在那以后科尔又成为了‘丢比萨的人’(对此他强烈否定),他已经成为了人们眼中好闹事的人。说不定在下周三,温格带领他的年轻球员在老特拉福德参加联赛杯比赛的时候,还会出什么事情呢。

“这真是奇怪的说法。似乎人们总是认为是我在作甚么坏事。当然,在我的职业生涯里我确实做过一些愚蠢的事情,我也确实总是出现在报纸上,但是我非常讨厌看到自己出现在报纸上,尤其是每一次同曼联的比赛后。”

“我们输掉了比赛,但你看到每一张报纸上都在写着‘是谁干得这个?’、‘谁干得那个?’你就不能不为这些事情烦!更让我感到吃惊的是上面居然有我的名字。当你看到所有的报纸都在报道说你干了一些你压根没干的事情的时候,可想而知这多令人苦恼!我没有丢任何东西。我甚至不在那里,也不在那附近!我那时候在更衣室里。这种说法简直太荒谬了。”

“当然比赛里有犯规,有点球,在这种比赛里球员的情绪往往很激动,双方都很想赢得比赛。但是我认为媒体的渲染也太夸张了。每个人都说我们扔了食物,而且在通道里有斗殴。事实根本不是这样。当然通道里确实发生了一些不应该发生的事情,但是当时大家的情绪都很激动。我也同加里-内维尔谈过这件事情,我们现在都一笑了之。然而媒体却还在不断说这些事情。-当我们再去老特拉福德的时候,还会有‘比萨事件之二”的。”

在此以后,阿森纳还要面对更多的挑战,冠军杯主场对阵罗森博格,然后联赛对阵切尔西。目前切尔西已经给阿森纳带来了很大的威胁,科尔明白为什么。“不要误解我得意思,同利物浦的比赛会是非常困难的比赛。没有击败曼联是因为他们有许多伟大的球员。但是人们往往忽略了一个问题,那就是运气。再次赢得联赛冠军是我们现在的主要目标。当然我们也想在冠军杯上有所作为,但是要两线都做的很好,这很困难。曼联做到了这点,但是当年曼联在对阵拜仁的时候也有很大的运气成分。如果你问阿森纳的球员,他们都会想赢得联赛冠军的。我们要证明我们是英超的王者。”

[此贴子已经被echo于2004-11-29 17:21:58编辑过]

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卫报:阿什利科尔的最新专访! Defender cast in unwanted role of target man Racist taunts in Spain and elsewhere may have rattled Arsenal and England's left-back Ashley Cole but have not dampened his spirit Michael Walker Saturday November 27, 2004 The Guardian How great it would have been to have sat down with Ashley Cole in interview room 15 at Arsenal's training ground and talked solely about football. How great it would be to write this piece without mentioning that Cole's mother, Sue, is white. How great it would be if Luis Aragonés, the manager of Spain, was colour blind. Sadly Aragonés's remark about Cole's Arsenal colleague Thierry Henry set in train events that culminated in the racist abuse heaped on England's black players in the Bernabéu Stadium 10 days ago, actions that continue to reverberate.

Consequently Cole's colour and culture became the subject of discussion. He responded politely and articulately, spoke forgivingly of racism he endured when young, of having Ledley King and Jlloyd Samuel as close friends then, of his love of Michael Jackson, Alexander O'Neal and his uncle's insistence on having Elvis Presley on in the car on the way to matches as a boy. None of which - certainly not Jackson and Presley - is black and white.

"At primary school you'd get kids who don't know what it means saying 'you black bastard', 'nigger'," Cole said. "You don't condone it, but kids don't know what it means. My dad's from Barbados but I lived with my mum. She brought me up; my uncle took me to the football. I grew up in a white family, I'd say. It was Bow, east London, with Ledley, Jlloyd, just a lot of young people trying to get through life."

Cole is getting through. The title race rather than the human race would be his preferred topic - Arsenal's game tomorrow at Liverpool and Chelsea's Premiership challenge - but this day, blue was not the colour. Aragonés had specified an Arsenal player's blackness. So uncomfortable questions are prompted.

Cole addressed it using a football cliché - with a twist. "At the end of the day," he said, "I'm human. I'm English - I was born here. Of course I'm a different colour from you, but I'm still human. The main thing is, I'm human - like everyone else. Because I'm a different colour doesn't mean there is a difference."

It is a remarkable fact to have to assert in 2004 but the humanity of Cole and England's black players was questioned in the Bernabéu by people willing to paint them as members of the animal kingdom.

Spain shocked the 23-year-old and he was glad his mother had not travelled to the match. Back in England she turned off the television in disgust; back in England Cole felt as he should, at home. The abuse Dwight Yorke received at Ewood Park last Sunday is a reminder that there is long way to go in England too, but Cole is positive about his country.

"I think England has become more tolerant," he said. "Walking down the street you don't hear things. In the Premiership I have not heard anything - Manchester, Liverpool, wherever you go, it's good. I think the foreigners can vouch for that and I think the t-shirts and campaigns have worked, definitely. But when you go away with your club team or your country it seems to be getting worse and worse. It's not changing. Thierry got most of it at PSV [two seasons ago]. I have had it for England in Slovakia, Macedonia, Albania, now Spain. It just seems to be everywhere apart from England."

As an example of England's tolerance, Cole said that his being the face of a new sportswear campaign was significant. He pointed out that two other players abused in Madrid, Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas, are fronting advertising for other brands. "It's good for me to be in the shop window - 20 years ago you maybe would not have seen a black person in the shop window. As I said, I think times have changed and in England for the better. I'm happy with it. But there are white players doing things, too. It's equal in England."

In Spain, though, it is different. Cole's equanimity was shattered in Madrid and when a copy of last Friday's El Mundo was placed in front of him showing his 44th- minute face-to-face confrontation with Aragonés, Cole's unease was plain. "Of course you don't want to hear racist chants, but sometimes as a player you have to take it," he said. "But when you hear the manager saying things and not backing down then it does get to you a bit.

"When I went to get the ball there he pushed me. He pushed me first - as a coach you can't do that. I pushed him, which was stupid. I shouldn't have gone down to his level. But I was just shocked that he pushed me. I didn't understand why. I didn't do anything to him - I was just walking off to get the ball. I shouldn't have pushed him back but with everything that was going on I was a little bit mad and lost my head a bit."

Given what Cole had just endured he had good reason to lose his cool. For him the pain of the whole Aragonés affair was increased by the central presence in it of José Antonio Reyes, another valued and trusted Arsenal team-mate. Reyes was the player Aragonés made the "black shit" remark to and Cole said Reyes left the Bernabéu wondering what the world would make of his country. "He was disappointed," Cole said. "It's his country. He was pretty down about it. He's not like that - he's so nice. We talked about it a bit, but we couldn't laugh about it."

Laughter, one quickly discovers, is part of Cole's make-up and, as some of these questions provoked sighs, he was happy when they were finished.

Five years after his November debut for Arsenal in a League Cup tie at Middlesbrough, Madrid capped an eventful month for Cole. Since late October's "Battle of Old Trafford", in which Cole was the victim of Ruud van Nistelrooy's violence and after which Cole was named as the pizza-thrower (strongly denied) in the tunnel, he has been in the eye of a tornado. It is probably just as well that when Arsenal go back to Old Trafford next Wednesday in the League Cup Arsène Wenger will be taking his young team.

"It's been an odd month," Cole said. "It always seems to be me. Of course I've done stupid things in my career and I do always seem to be in the paper, but I hate seeing myself. Every time we play Man U something comes up.

"We lost the game and it is hard not to think about it because it's in every paper: who did this, who did that. And I was named - shock. It's just so annoying when you see your name in the paper for these things you didn't do. I didn't chuck anything. I weren't even there, nowhere near it. I was in the changing room. Soup! Crazy.

"Of course there were tackles, and there was the penalty, but passion runs high in these games and both teams are so eager to win. But I did think the media blew it out of proportion - a bit. Everyone saying we were chucking food, or there was a big fight in the tunnel. It wasn't like that. Of course a few things happened that shouldn't have happened but tempers were running high. But I talk to Gary Neville and we laugh about it now. Yet it is still in the paper - "Pizza-throwing II" when we play them at Old Trafford."

After that come much bigger fixtures, at home to Rosenborg in the Champions League and then, a fortnight tomorrow, Chelsea. It reflects on Liverpool that the Chelsea fixture is already stalking the Arsenal horizon and Cole understands why: "Don't get me wrong, Liverpool is going to be a tough game. But I don't think it's got the spice it normally has. It's probably Arsenal and Chelsea who are the two now.

"Never count out Man U because they've got great players, but it seems there's just something missing there, a little click. We've definitely got it and Chelsea definitely have it now. It seems like us and Chelsea. And regaining the title is definitely the main aim for us. Of course we want to do well in the Champions League but it's so hard to do well in both. Man U proved they can do it but they were quite lucky against Bayern Munich. If you asked the players here, they want to win the league. Just to prove that we are still around." <!-- Start article trailblock widget --><!-- End article trailblock widget --><!-- interp: /Widgets/Text/0,2559,4383999-3057-,00.html --> <!-- /interp -->连接:http://football.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,4284,1360980,00.html <!-- interp: /Com/Up_Button/0,2082,,00.html --> <!-- /interp -->

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[此贴子已经被作者于2004-11-29 17:14:44编辑过]

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echo加油,我昨天翻译了一篇grantwewe的也这么长,累死了

不过文章都是很不错的

Arsène Knows
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我的妈呀,好悬要了我得老命!不过文章不错,值了!

grantwewe继续给我好的文章巴!

真想砍了阿拉贡内斯那个了老家伙!怎么不去死?

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其实我一直不明白为什么会有种族歧视
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雷耶斯也不明白自己的国家怎么会这样。“他感到非常失望。西班牙是他的祖国,对此他感到很难过。但是他不那样,他是个非常不错的小伙子。我们也一起谈论过这个问题,但是我们谁都无法一笑而过。”
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强烈感觉科尔将会是阿森纳历史上又一个伟大的队长
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又一个混血儿啊,难怪长得比较秀气

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现在的科尔已经很成熟了,很高兴我们厂培养出了他,为他鼓掌[em04][em04]

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-11-30 0:58:59编辑过]



邂逅,是瞬间的美丽...
爱上了,就要一辈子走下去...
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科尔好样的~!

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