事先声明：本贴仅仅代表个人观点，如果有不同意见，欢迎讨论，不过不要骂人阿，我觉得我的ＲＰ还凑合，大家嘴下留情
亨利：这个人无疑是目前我所最为喜爱的球星，我想这里的绝大多数人跟我也是一样的把，说句实话，我不能怪亨利，因为人无完人，可是我觉得有些话我还是要说说，昨天的比赛可以说是本赛季亨利表现得最差的一次了，当然，刚刚在马德里的神勇表现可能是导致昨天状态不好的一个原因，但是我觉得，如果亨利在马德里没有攻进那个长途奔袭，那么，我们可能能够更加客观地去评价一下他的状态，其实，本赛季的更多时候，亨利已经不像以前那样了
１ 我觉得他的过人成功率明显很低，而且他现在不喜欢过人了，这是事实，大家有目共睹
２ 亨利的任意球，本赛季如果我没有记错的话，亨利的任意球直接射门成功应该只有一个把，很多情况下都是大众人墙
３ 停球，这是本赛季亨利的一个挺大的问题，很多关键的机会（昨天出现过，皮雷传给亨利的那个），亨利都停不好球
４ 射门，亨利的射门能力可以说是世界顶尖的，但是，以往很难看到的亨利打出高射炮本赛季却屡屡出现
５ 跑动，对比一下阿德巴约和亨利的跑动，我觉得差距还是很明显的
以上是简单的几点问题
必须说明的是，我个人认为，亨利不适合作为队长，我不想说什么前锋不应该当队长的事情，亨利必须承认，他身边的球员大多数是很年轻的球员，这些人是阿森纳的未来，我想他们需要的是更多的鼓励，而不是白眼和指责，其次，很多情况下，当自己的队员受到了侵犯，亨利不喜欢站出来为队友说些什么，而这些事情更多地去出头的是莱曼，甚至是Ｆ１５，亨利是一个追求完美的人，这点很明显，但我觉得他明显缺乏耐心，阿德巴约来了阿森纳才几天，说实话他以前在法国的时候态度是何等的高傲，但是来到了阿森纳，勤勤恳恳，认认真真的比赛，也许他和亨利的配合是不够好，但是，他只来了短短的一段时间，你不可能要求他像皮雷和博格坎普那样，我想给他们一段时间，他们能够成就辉煌，但是亨利要有耐心。
最后，我觉得该市亨利做出选择的时候了，说句不该说的，无论他走到哪里都会支持他，但是，如果想留在阿森纳，他就必须面对阿森纳的现状，调整好自己的状态，为年轻人做好表率，他们会给你好的回报，毕竟，老温的年轻人战略，也是以亨利为核心的。
温格：个人认为，阿森纳谁都可以离开，但是唯一不能离开的，就是温格，温格是个不幸运的人，好不容易就要击倒佛格森，却半路杀出来个阿布。
但是我从来不认为温格在战略上有什么错误，我们不可能和海鲜拼＄，这是毋庸置疑的，而且，海鲜明显有克制我们的趋势，我们想买谁，他们就买谁，漫天开价，我们能怎么样，我想，在阿布被抓起来之前，我们无可奈何
那么下面必然就是要说说我们的年轻人，我始终坚信温格在这一点上是没有问题的，现在什么人去不了切尔西，年轻人，有实力的年轻人，什么人最容易在切尔西倒霉，个人认为：赖特菲利普斯，所以，这是我们唯一的一块可以和海鲜争夺一下的地盘，而且，只有这样，我们才有可能在几个赛季之后再次和切尔西一较高下，如果现在就和他拼，我们可能输掉的不仅仅是这一个赛季，更有可能使阿森纳的未来。
阿森纳的未来在什么地方，只有这些人了，说实话，１－２年之后，Ｐ７将不再了，Ｌ８能否继续还要看他自己，Ｃ２３也会老去，Ｇ１９也是一样，ＢＯＢＯ就更不用说了，有没有谁想过当这些人都不再阿森纳的时候，甚至亨利不再的时候，如果到了那个时候我们的娃娃抢手还没有成长起来，后果会是怎么样，看看本赛季没有他们的比赛我们都打成了什么样子，如果那样，前４？欧冠？可能一切都将是泡影了，这个赛季我们注定是要交学费了，但我觉得这并不亏，虽然从某种意义上讲，温格也是在赌博，但是，不这样还能怎样？跟切尔西火拼两年然后彻底全线崩盘？谁也不想看到那一天，所以，请支持温格，他还没有老糊涂呢，真正老糊涂的事ＭＵ的那个老大爷，深深的皱纹之下还是充满了智慧，那个地方早就装上了阿森纳未来的蓝图。。。。。。
行了，说了这么多了，估计就算我再怎么说也会有人骂我，没办法了，还是那句话，个人观点
最后号召，所有阿森纳真的得死杆，不要总把目光放在这一个失败的赛季上，虽然我也承认前四如果都进不了会是一件多么可悲的事情，但是，为了阿森纳的未来，我还是会一如既往，所有人其实都一样，是不是？？
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马上买掉H14, 引进superman
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马上买掉H14, 引进superman
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[em08][em08][em08][em08]只要他们存在!!!!
这就是现在一看H14表现不好就倒H14倒温的人的想法, 和墙头草没道理可讲
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 20:46:03编辑过]
楼上的小孩仔细读读楼住的帖子，人家是理智客观的分析和批评，你就只会瞎咋唬说人家墙头草。你的理由在哪里？你的分析能力在哪里？
人家心里装着整个阿森纳，为当前的病症找原因，你们就会“倒这倒那”的乱扣帽子。
只要他们存在!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
这就是现在一看H14表现不好就倒H14倒温的人的想法, 和这些墙头草已经没道理可讲
尊重你的说你一声小孩。要不然我在前面加个P。
这样理智的评论在论坛里很少见。
楼上的小孩仔细读读楼住的帖子，人家是理智客观的分析和批评，你就只会瞎咋唬说人家墙头草。你的理由在哪里？你的分析能力在哪里？
人家心里装着整个阿森纳，为当前的病症找原因，你们就会“倒这倒那”的乱扣帽子。
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 21:21:28编辑过]
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 20:57:23编辑过]
只要他们存在!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
这就是现在一看H14表现不好就倒H14倒温的人的想法, 和这些墙头草已经没道理可讲
尊重你的说你一声小孩。要不然我在前面加个P。
这样理智的评论在论坛里很少见。
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 21:27:59编辑过]
Henry不要做队长了，好好做射手吧。
要续约就赶快，不然就早点卖了，少降低士气，也好让arsenal早点重建。
转一篇AM上的文章参考一下
In progression to become a mid table mediocre club slugging out with Blackburn, Bolton, Villa etc etc for the coveted UEFA cup slot.
I seriously believe that too many fans over here overrate Henry by way too much.
He's good, he's great, he could win you games singlehandedly, no doubt about it, but, that was in the past when his passion and love for the club was unwavering
他很强，他很伟大，他原来可以凭一己之力帮助球队获胜，这是毫无疑问的。那是当他具有对俱乐部有着坚定的感情和爱的时候。
BUT, Is Arsenal truly a one man squad? Are you sure that given the irrefutable talent in our young squad, we would do s**t once Henry leaves? On the contrary, i personally feels that Henry leaving would do Arsenal and Arsène Wenger world of good.
Arsenal without Henry, would be synonymous to a team without a SuperStar and everyone would be playing, fighting and slugging out hard together as a cohesive unit to overcome all odds.
Has football most effective, most fundamental and imperative prerequisite changed? No isn't it? Teamwork is still the god damn most crucial element of all, and it will always be so perennially.
Henry may be able to win a couple of games individually for you, but can he do it for every games? Cmon, he ain't no god ok.
足球最有效，最根本的，最基础的东西改变了么？没有。团队协作仍然是最重要的一个方面，也永远是最基础的。亨利能靠个人能力赢一些比赛，但能每场都这样么？他又不是上帝。
Evaluate the whole situation and circumstances surrounding Arsenal now,
all we need is time and inspiration for a TRUE leader to get our act together again. Objectively and frankly speaking, I bet other teams' managers, if being blessed with a considerable of foresight, inevitably would start shivering in their dreams once this current unit of young Arsenal matures into an effective and efficient fighting unit.
考虑现在整个阿森纳的情况和环境。我们现在最需要的是找到一个真正的领袖把队伍重新凝聚在一起。
However, to be able to reach that stage,
we seriously need a leader with passion and steadfast commitment to the club to lead us to glory again....and sadly, the current Henry of late just does not cut out to be the special one.
但是，为能达到这种地步，我们真的需要一个有激情对球队百分百忠诚的领袖带领我们重获荣誉...可惜的是，现在的队长亨利不能做这个角色。
To better comprehend the pros and cons in the hypothetical situation if Henry isn't around (subjective assessment though)
（对没有亨利的好情况怀情况的主观假设）
Cons 怀情况
1) No recognised, 'undroppable' striker
2) No true world class player
3) MAY slip further down the table due to lack of goals for a few season
Pros 好情况
1) Cohesiveness in the team (IMPERATIVE), because everyone would have an equal chance of playing, if you perform, you are in, if not, you are out. How i admire Mourinho for having the guts to drop players.
2) Hefty transfer fee from Henry, and get us another recognised in the box striker or defender to further bloster the team up. No single world class player may be even beneficial for Arsenal...because, again, everyone would be 'equal' and treatment would be equitable. Fight FOR YOUR CHANCE.
3) Point number 3 of 'cons' may be negated if, the team starts to play as one and without a target man who wants to be involved in everything,
CREATIVITY would seep into Arsenal and who knows that everyone might just start taking up responsibility to score for Arsenal.
Lastly, if you can't understand what i'm trying to put across, then picture yourself in a team full of youngsters, trying their very best for the club, trying to believe that if you are good enough, you would play
but the next moment, your manager told you that you must pass to the a sulking captain, play for him, if not you are out. <---this is what i believe that's going on in Arsenal now.
How good would it do to your morale eh?
Edited
* Lastly and finally
from the advent of Royal Arsenal in 1886 (i just hate the dial square name, wtf!) through to contemporary times of Arsenal of 2006, we have a freaking history of literally 120 years! IF Henry leaves, would that means the demise of Arsenal? No isn't it?
Who the f**k cares about one player if he doesn't want Arsenal anymore, Arsenal is Arsenal, we all love Arsenal as a football club, for it's history, it's success, it's failures.
If you support Arsenal only because you love Henry, then that's just too bad. IF he really leaves, all you need to do is to switch your allegiance to another club, simple.
With or without Henry, Arsenal would still progress on through time, be it good or bad, but what is most important is the core spirit of Arsenal would never be gone.
为什么我的引用总是发表不了呢？RP？
赫赫，个人一点观点，大家见笑~~~~
[em07][em07][em07][此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-26 21:35:23编辑过]
好帖就要顶起来
亨利的壮态受到转会的影响这是人之常情 换做谁都一样
相信亨利也会懂得进入前四达到留队的标准是要靠他和他的队友共同去努力
只是这些需要他的自身调整
如果他真的爱着枪手 那么我们不用去担心他的决定
如果他真的走了 我们在遗憾的同时也不必过分伤心
因为我们还有温格 还有这些优秀的年轻球员 还有新球场的先进硬件
还有未来对抗阿布钞票的资本 还有优雅的艺术足球
还有我们衷爱的阿森纳
Who the f**k cares about one player if he doesn't want Arsenal anymore, Arsenal is Arsenal, we all love Arsenal as a football club, for it's history, it's success, it's failures.
If you support Arsenal only because you love Henry, then that's just too bad. IF he really leaves, all you need to do is to switch your allegiance to another club, simple.
With or without Henry, Arsenal would still progress on through time, be it good or bad, but what is most important is the core spirit of Arsenal would never be gone.
I suggest all the ppl who are dizzing henry right now come and nail your eyes to these words make them useful perhaps for the first time in your life, and learn how to speak in a more literary sense. ok, maybe this guy is trying to say the same thing as you are trying to say, but see, he doesn't say things without using his brain ahead of time.
ok, i am a fan of henry, so what? is there a problem of being a fan of him? He's a gunner and he's done a magnificent job for Arsenal, that's why people say he's one of the greatest players in the club's history, so....is there a problem admiring a hero of the club?? why should i be the type of person that you want me to be just because you are interpreting that he's going to leave Arsenal? I don't think he will, and in fact he never said he is gonna leave anyways, so why don't all of you just take your piece of "psychic talent" and shove it up your ass?
You think urging one of the most wonderful players in the club's history to leave the club is considered to be what is so called "loyalty"?? well, i'll tell you what it's called, it's called "your head is stucked with shit".
If you really love the club, you wish it all the best, you wish the young players develop fast and become top players in the world, and you wish the club keep every single promising players they already have, and make the best use of them. you don't dizz your players and wanting them to leave just because you don't like them or "YOU THINK" they are going to leave!
personally, if henry really leaves Arsenal, then good for him, go somewhere else, persuit your goal that you cannot achieve while you were in Arsenal, but i will stick with Arsenal. But he didn't leave Arsenal, he's still here, playing as usual and wishing for Arsenal's comeback. In this case, i will support here till the end. Defending henry here does not mean we are blindly in love with this guy ok? it means i am not as stupid as all of you out there that never really understood the word "loyalty".
PS, chinese input is down again, need translation, ask me
[em04][此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-28 1:27:09编辑过]
Who the f**k cares about one player if he doesn't want Arsenal anymore, Arsenal is Arsenal, we all love Arsenal as a football club, for it's history, it's success, it's failures.
If you support Arsenal only because you love Henry, then that's just too bad. IF he really leaves, all you need to do is to switch your allegiance to another club, simple.
With or without Henry, Arsenal would still progress on through time, be it good or bad, but what is most important is the core spirit of Arsenal would never be gone.
I suggest all the ppl who are dizzing henry right now come and nail your eyes to these words make them useful perhaps for the first time in your life, and learn how to speak in a more literary sense. ok, maybe this guy is trying to say the same thing as you are trying to say, but see, he doesn't say things without using his brain ahead of time.
ok, i am a fan of henry, so what? is there a problem of being a fan of him? He's a gunner and he's done a magnificent job for Arsenal, that's why people say he's one of the greatest players in the club's history, so....is there a problem admiring a hero of the club?? why should i be the type of person that you want me to be just because you are interpreting that he's going to leave Arsenal? I don't think he will, and in fact he never said he is gonna leave anyways, so why don't all of you just take your piece of "psychic talent" and shove it up your ass?
You think urging one of the most wonderful players in the club's history to leave the club is considered to be what is so called "royalty"?? well, i'll tell you what it's called, it's called "your head is stucked with shit".
If you really love the club, you wish it all the best, you wish the young players develop fast and become top players in the world, and you wish the club keep every single promising players they already have, and make the best use of them. you don't dizz your players and wanting them to leave just because you don't like them or "YOU THINK" they are going to leave!
personally, if henry really leaves Arsenal, then good for him, go somewhere else, persuit your goal that you cannot achieve while you were in Arsenal, but i will stick with Arsenal. But he didn't leave Arsenal, he's still here, playing as usual and wishing for Arsenal's comeback. In this case, i will support here till the end. Defending henry here does not mean we are blindly in love with this guy ok? it means i am not as stupid as all of you out there that never really understood the word "royalty".
PS, chinese input is down again, need translation, ask me
[em04]i need translation,thank u.quickly as possible[em14]
ps.支持林指令的粉丝.[em14]
其实实际一点,卖掉henry的钱够买一个一流前锋+一流中场了!
有些人是很有实力的,但是名气不响,关键我们现在需要的是实用,是赢球来找回自信啊
就像你说的那样,人无完人,亨利也疲惫了,阿森纳这个成绩很难让这么一个世界级,有梦想的球员有干劲
亨利的确不适合做队长,但这也许可以在"绑"住他的问题上能有一点点帮助.而且,如果现在把亨利的队长袖标拿下来,他就走定了
如果等他续约以后再把袖标拿下来,一定会遭到非议
进退两难
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[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-28 0:03:30编辑过]
Who the f**k cares about one player if he doesn't want Arsenal anymore, Arsenal is Arsenal, we all love Arsenal as a football club, for it's history, it's success, it's failures.
If you support Arsenal only because you love Henry, then that's just too bad. IF he really leaves, all you need to do is to switch your allegiance to another club, simple.
With or without Henry, Arsenal would still progress on through time, be it good or bad, but what is most important is the core spirit of Arsenal would never be gone.
I suggest all the ppl who are dizzing henry right now come and nail your eyes to these words make them useful perhaps for the first time in your life, and learn how to speak in a more literary sense. ok, maybe this guy is trying to say the same thing as you are trying to say, but see, he doesn't say things without using his brain ahead of time.
ok, i am a fan of henry, so what? is there a problem of being a fan of him? He's a gunner and he's done a magnificent job for Arsenal, that's why people say he's one of the greatest players in the club's history, so....is there a problem admiring a hero of the club?? why should i be the type of person that you want me to be just because you are interpreting that he's going to leave Arsenal? I don't think he will, and in fact he never said he is gonna leave anyways, so why don't all of you just take your piece of "psychic talent" and shove it up your ass?
You think urging one of the most wonderful players in the club's history to leave the club is considered to be what is so called "royalty"?? well, i'll tell you what it's called, it's called "your head is stucked with shit".
If you really love the club, you wish it all the best, you wish the young players develop fast and become top players in the world, and you wish the club keep every single promising players they already have, and make the best use of them. you don't dizz your players and wanting them to leave just because you don't like them or "YOU THINK" they are going to leave!
personally, if henry really leaves Arsenal, then good for him, go somewhere else, persuit your goal that you cannot achieve while you were in Arsenal, but i will stick with Arsenal. But he didn't leave Arsenal, he's still here, playing as usual and wishing for Arsenal's comeback. In this case, i will support here till the end. Defending henry here does not mean we are blindly in love with this guy ok? it means i am not as stupid as all of you out there that never really understood the word "royalty".
Not a single Arsenal fan really wants Henry to leave, we love him so much that some of us fell in despair when he could not perform as a good captain.
It is also evident that Henry had done little to hold the team together and help young players develope since he became our cap. We all know he is not omnipotent, but it is his damn duty to do this as he carrys the responsibility of being a team leader and an old player when the team is in trouble. There is a reason why so many fans are questioning his attitude. There is a reason why some are getting so pissed on his facial expression. Think about it. Watch the way he played the face he gave you would know he only want others to play in his own way all the time, and that is a bad thing for us. Our attacking system has become so dull and inefficient. Reyes,Hleb,Fabregas,Adeb,Gilberto,even Freddie had lost his normal way of playing. Why?!! Wenger and Henry himself must figure it out before it's too late.
If things goes on like this, letting him go is not a choice we have to make, but a fact we have to accept. He would not play for a team unqualified for ECL. It's not his fault. The seeds have been planted when Viera left and Henry was made our captain.....
[此贴子已经被作者于2006-2-28 1:17:38编辑过]