莱曼
埃布埃 托雷 久若 克里希
法布雷加斯
赫莱布 罗西基 范帕希
巴普蒂斯塔
亨利
席尔瓦不能上场，中场防守能力急剧下降，唯有利用人数的优势抑制近来强势的曼联。4－5－1，防反！！！！
野兽依靠强壮的身体在前场驻起第一道防线。中间三个防守能力不足，但是凭借积极跑动缠住对手，并且能拿住球，组织反击。后面小法负责补位，长传，组织交给前面三位。
后卫线就按照以前那样打。久若的速度优于森德罗斯。埃布埃应该能及时伤愈，否则就用久若打边，小森中间，不可信任霍耶特！他顶不住曼联的边锋！
亨利游弋，速度，个人能力。。。。
费拉米尼可做福将适时上场。。。。
防反，一分是赢，3分赚大。。。。
现在曼联比我们强，应该冷静看到这一点，摆正自己位置。像去年欧冠。。。。。
[em07]
据报道，加拉斯有望复出，后防压力顿时减轻不少。防线可改为
埃布埃 托雷 加拉斯 克里希
如果埃布埃不能上场，就用久若替他。
费拉米尼上场的呼声很高。经过讨论后我也认为有道理。所以希望中场变成
赫莱布 法布雷加斯 费拉米尼 罗西基 范帕希
4－5－1还是必要的。现在曼联的确比我们强。
谢谢
[em01][此贴子已经被作者于2007-1-16 12:02:25编辑过]
如果落后，可变阵4－3－3
前场变成
赫莱布 小法 罗西基
范帕希 阿德巴约 亨利
h13边路突破，v11内切骗点球，阿德强打中路；
小法长传+直塞，罗西基增加远射；
亨利依旧自由人，依靠超强的个人能力。
。。。也许可以给阿里机会。。。但是不要抱太大希望。温格比诸葛亮还谨慎。。。
[em07]why does everyone think Djourou is faster than senderos? have you see them sprint? have you got any documentry profile that says Djourou is faster than Senderos? or is it you just predicting that by simply look at their faces? if that's the case,then stop saying that, CUZ HE IS NOT!!!
they are both big built defenders with SLOW pace, in this case, you would have to pick the one with better positioning and good sight, which is definitely SENDEROS!
[em02]why does everyone think Djourou is faster than senderos? have you see them sprint? have you got any documentry profile that says Djourou is faster than Senderos? or is it you just predicting that by simply look at their faces? if that's the case,then stop saying that, CUZ HE IS NOT!!!
they are both big built defenders with SLOW pace, in this case, you would have to pick the one with better positioning and good sight, which is definitely SENDEROS!
[em02]'Cause he is black....
Understand?
Just a joke.....forget it.....
why does everyone think Djourou is faster than senderos? have you see them sprint? have you got any documentry profile that says Djourou is faster than Senderos? or is it you just predicting that by simply look at their faces? if that's the case,then stop saying that, CUZ HE IS NOT!!!
they are both big built defenders with SLOW pace, in this case, you would have to pick the one with better positioning and good sight, which is definitely SENDEROS!
[em02]'Cause he is black....
Understand?
Just a joke.....forget it.....
that's the worst joke ever
seriously, why do ppl prefer Djourou over Senderos even after he makes numerous perfect performances for Arsenal? last game against blackburn, he was simply outstanding, the best among the back four, win everything in the air and saved us millions of times.
last season, him and toure kept a 11 consecutive clean sheets in the CL, and everyone gives credit to Toure...as soon as he injuires himself during the game with spurs and was taken off for Djourou, Robbie Keane scores a goal and he misses the final, and we conceded 2 goals.
the season before, i forgot how many games, but towards the end of the season, he kept at least more than 10 clean sheets for us which brings us over man U at the end and became second, in the FA cup final, Man U had millions of chances to score a goal against us during the 120 minutes, but they didn't, beside the bad fortune, do you really think there is not a slight chance it might have been Senderos who did it?
He proved himself in big games, Bayern, Chelsea, Man U, and he proves himself in small games(too many), he has experience that Djourou doesn't have, he also has the ability that Djourou doesn't have. He knows six languages, so HE CAN'T BE STUPID, which is exactly why he finishes his job over expected even people don't think he's good enough!
真好笑...就因为巴普壮实就说他能够防守？无论是在塞维利亚、马戏团还是现在的阿森纳 他从来就没有防守过 他回防的积极性完全无法和Van相比 更不用说亨利
若真的想要防守型的中前场Flamini will be the best choise
巴普来的时间还不够长 的确他有能力 但是并不像罗西基、赫莱布、雷耶斯那样的有能力 所以他需要更多的时间来适应阿森纳的打法
就他目前的表现 除非我们伤病到无人可用 完全达不到首发出战曼联的水准 包括那场他独进四球的演出 还远未够班呢
见鬼了，这中前场被人一打就穿基本等于别人拿球就直接面对我们后卫了。
见鬼了，这中前场被人一打就穿基本等于别人拿球就直接面对我们后卫了。
seriously, why do ppl prefer Djourou over Senderos even after he makes numerous perfect performances for Arsenal? last game against blackburn, he was simply outstanding, the best among the back four, win everything in the air and saved us millions of times.
last season, him and toure kept a 11 consecutive clean sheets in the CL, and everyone gives credit to Toure...as soon as he injuires himself during the game with spurs and was taken off for Djourou, Robbie Keane scores a goal and he misses the final, and we conceded 2 goals.
the season before, i forgot how many games, but towards the end of the season, he kept at least more than 10 clean sheets for us which brings us over man U at the end and became second, in the FA cup final, Man U had millions of chances to score a goal against us during the 120 minutes, but they didn't, beside the bad fortune, do you really think there is not a slight chance it might have been Senderos who did it?
He proved himself in big games, Bayern, Chelsea, Man U, and he proves himself in small games(too many), he has experience that Djourou doesn't have, he also has the ability that Djourou doesn't have. He knows six languages, so HE CAN'T BE STUPID, which is exactly why he finishes his job over expected even people don't think he's good enough!
Pace...that's why I choose Djourou..
& the six languages....Are you joking....It sounds like that "he is black"...
sometimes soccer players need to be stupid....like Rooney....
& are you sending your sheep to a tiger?....
it doesn't worth to talk about that....
[em07]真好笑...就因为巴普壮实就说他能够防守？无论是在塞维利亚、马戏团还是现在的阿森纳 他从来就没有防守过 他回防的积极性完全无法和Van相比 更不用说亨利
若真的想要防守型的中前场Flamini will be the best choise
巴普来的时间还不够长 的确他有能力 但是并不像罗西基、赫莱布、雷耶斯那样的有能力 所以他需要更多的时间来适应阿森纳的打法
就他目前的表现 除非我们伤病到无人可用 完全达不到首发出战曼联的水准 包括那场他独进四球的演出 还远未够班呢
这个说的有理。。。我写的时候有些草率。。[em07][em07]
费拉米尼更积极防守能力更强。。。但是不够稳定（替补的命，虽然我很喜欢他）。。。恐怕。。。
野兽的防守的确不怎么样，但是我觉得他有潜力成为破坏型中场（或者中卫？？？）。。。也许教授。。。
想不到更好人选。。。
[em07][em07]
……是一打就穿而不是两打三打才穿。
[em02]seriously, why do ppl prefer Djourou over Senderos even after he makes numerous perfect performances for Arsenal? last game against blackburn, he was simply outstanding, the best among the back four, win everything in the air and saved us millions of times.
last season, him and toure kept a 11 consecutive clean sheets in the CL, and everyone gives credit to Toure...as soon as he injuires himself during the game with spurs and was taken off for Djourou, Robbie Keane scores a goal and he misses the final, and we conceded 2 goals.
the season before, i forgot how many games, but towards the end of the season, he kept at least more than 10 clean sheets for us which brings us over man U at the end and became second, in the FA cup final, Man U had millions of chances to score a goal against us during the 120 minutes, but they didn't, beside the bad fortune, do you really think there is not a slight chance it might have been Senderos who did it?
He proved himself in big games, Bayern, Chelsea, Man U, and he proves himself in small games(too many), he has experience that Djourou doesn't have, he also has the ability that Djourou doesn't have. He knows six languages, so HE CAN'T BE STUPID, which is exactly why he finishes his job over expected even people don't think he's good enough!
Pace...that's why I choose Djourou..
& the six languages....Are you joking....It sounds like that "he is black"...
sometimes soccer players need to be stupid....like Rooney....
& are you sending your sheep to a tiger?....
it doesn't worth to talk about that....
[em07]what kind of pace are you talking about? are you saying Djourou is fast? cuz i can tell you, he's not, he's also a very slow defender. the only thing he's good at is his physical strength and he's positioning which senderos is better in both cases. Even if he's faster than Senderos, so what? is he fast enough to make a difference? compare to rooney, CR7, Park-ji-sung, he's pace means nothing, so....how is he better than Senderos since Senderos is much more experienced and better at positioning?
and for your information, i'm not joking, Senderos is raised in Switherland, in which everyone has to learn more than one 3 languages, luckily for him, he knows six, i quoted from his profile, the guy can communited to anyone in the team with their language no problem except for those ones from africa. A guy knows six languages CAN'T BE STUPID. Rooney is stupid? we need stupid players? now you are just talking non-sense...
sending sheep to tiger? that would be true if we put out a squad like you, and i think it is worth talking about because i think Senderos is going to be a key player in this game
如果落后，可变阵4－3－3
前场变成
赫莱布 小法 罗西基
范帕希 阿德巴约 亨利
h13边路突破，v11内切骗点球，阿德强打中路；
小法长传+直塞，罗西基增加远射；
亨利依旧自由人，依靠超强的个人能力。
。。。也许可以给阿里机会。。。但是不要抱太大希望。温格比诸葛亮还谨慎。。。
[em07][em06][em06]
你有病就去看医生
[em04]why does everyone think Djourou is faster than senderos? have you see them sprint? have you got any documentry profile that says Djourou is faster than Senderos? or is it you just predicting that by simply look at their faces? if that's the case,then stop saying that, CUZ HE IS NOT!!!
they are both big built defenders with SLOW pace, in this case, you would have to pick the one with better positioning and good sight, which is definitely SENDEROS!
[em02]'Cause he is black....
Understand?
Just a joke.....forget it.....
that's the worst joke ever
seriously, why do ppl prefer Djourou over Senderos even after he makes numerous perfect performances for Arsenal? last game against blackburn, he was simply outstanding, the best among the back four, win everything in the air and saved us millions of times.
last season, him and toure kept a 11 consecutive clean sheets in the CL, and everyone gives credit to Toure...as soon as he injuires himself during the game with spurs and was taken off for Djourou, Robbie Keane scores a goal and he misses the final, and we conceded 2 goals.
the season before, i forgot how many games, but towards the end of the season, he kept at least more than 10 clean sheets for us which brings us over man U at the end and became second, in the FA cup final, Man U had millions of chances to score a goal against us during the 120 minutes, but they didn't, beside the bad fortune, do you really think there is not a slight chance it might have been Senderos who did it?
He proved himself in big games, Bayern, Chelsea, Man U, and he proves himself in small games(too many), he has experience that Djourou doesn't have, he also has the ability that Djourou doesn't have. He knows six languages, so HE CAN'T BE STUPID, which is exactly why he finishes his job over expected even people don't think he's good enough!
Hi, William, I fully agree with your idea. Senderos is good at positioning and coordinating with other defenders, which is really an indispensable merits above all.
Besides, maybe it is a little bit superstitious, I believe Senderos is a lucky player, as to ARSENAL FC. In most cases, when he made some junior turnovers, opponents can not make a score almostly, except the one-one competition with Drogba. In contrast, Pascal Cygan, is much more junior, at this point. Oponents always make scores when he made a tiny mistake. Frankly speaking, I am not looking down upon Pascal Cygan, or biting him.
Overall, pace and speed of Djourou and Senderos are plain, in comparision with their height and body, while how to use one's advantages become more critical.
Personally speaking, I am for Senderos over Djourou.
why does everyone think Djourou is faster than senderos? have you see them sprint? have you got any documentry profile that says Djourou is faster than Senderos? or is it you just predicting that by simply look at their faces? if that's the case,then stop saying that, CUZ HE IS NOT!!!
they are both big built defenders with SLOW pace, in this case, you would have to pick the one with better positioning and good sight, which is definitely SENDEROS!
[em02]教授不会排出这种进攻型的阵型的，至少要有个费米尼座中场中路（虽然他的表现还是一般般）
这种阵型留着对布力般吧下次
如果落后，可变阵4－3－3
前场变成
赫莱布 小法 罗西基
范帕希 阿德巴约 亨利
h13边路突破，v11内切骗点球，阿德强打中路；
小法长传+直塞，罗西基增加远射；
亨利依旧自由人，依靠超强的个人能力。
。。。也许可以给阿里机会。。。但是不要抱太大希望。温格比诸葛亮还谨慎。。。
[em07][em06][em06]
你有病就去看医生
[em04]这是足球的一部分。。。。
皮雷斯走后，范帕希最有这方面天赋和倾向——坏坏的v11
无可厚非
p.s.我没病
[em08]好多人说E文。。。[em07]
差点看不懂。。。。
[em02]
照顾下我这样的粉丝啦。。。少说些鸟语，多点翻译。。。谢谢
[em07]明白。。。
误会了。。。sorry....
还以为他是假洋鬼子。。。。
致歉
[em07][em07][em08]幅队长不能出场吗..?
LZ推荐的阵型都是不错的
但某几个具体位置的首发人选有待商榷
小森的大赛经验 站位 视野 确比 都 德尤鲁 强
不过有时处理球确实显得毛躁 速度也够快
实际比赛时 就怕鲁尼 萨哈 C罗轮流用速度冲击他和CLICHY防守的这边
毕竟上个赛季 我们0:2输给曼联的那场比赛 鲁尼就是利用我们薄弱左侧打开胜利之门的
后腰人选 应该 可以考虑 伤愈 的 DIABY
这孩子身体素质 场上作风 接近 V4
在G19停赛的时候 应该可以比较尽职的完成后卫线前屏障的作用
不过还是要考虑他的状态问题 毕竟伤愈后正式比赛中他仅是在联赛杯替补登场
FLAMINI 放在第二位考虑 他很勤恳 但是身体素质偏差 对抗 斯科尔斯 卡里克 挺吃亏
SONG 联赛杯表现不错 不过这样的大场面 慎重的好
PS 除了威廉 我想大家不要秀英文了 读着比中文慢...
[em14]
LZ推荐的阵型都是不错的
但某几个具体位置的首发人选有待商榷
小森的大赛经验 站位 视野 确比 都 德尤鲁 强
不过有时处理球确实显得毛躁 速度也够快
实际比赛时 就怕鲁尼 萨哈 C罗轮流用速度冲击他和CLICHY防守的这边
毕竟上个赛季 我们0:2输给曼联的那场比赛 鲁尼就是利用我们薄弱左侧打开胜利之门的
后腰人选 应该 可以考虑 伤愈 的 DIABY
这孩子身体素质 场上作风 接近 V4
在G19停赛的时候 应该可以比较尽职的完成后卫线前屏障的作用
不过还是要考虑他的状态问题 毕竟伤愈后正式比赛中他仅是在联赛杯替补登场
FLAMINI 放在第二位考虑 他很勤恳 但是身体素质偏差 对抗 斯科尔斯 卡里克 挺吃亏
SONG 联赛杯表现不错 不过这样的大场面 慎重的好
PS 除了威廉 我想大家不要秀英文了 读着比中文慢...
[em14]
终于有个RP比较好的。。。
厚道的人比较受人尊敬。。。
[em07]sorry, i'm at library for the whole day, don't have chinese system here, i believe i should have stated that earlier, but i do that all the time, i thought ppl already know[em07]
back to the topic, all i'm saying is that, there shall not be any excuse dropping senderos without a legitement reason, i believe after Chelsea's game, Wenger put him on the bench for a while, then plays him again, which has been proven that him and Djourou are on different level still, although he's young, he's been in all kinds of big games like world cup, champions league final, etc, unlike other young players, he's very experienced, which i think is a very important part of him to some extend.
[em38]